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		<title>By: alaspooryorik</title>
		<link>http://ummadam.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/interesting-news-article-on-polygyny/#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>alaspooryorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the juiciest details of ones jahilyah is to be kept secret. That was teh practise of teh sahbbah and as far as I know covvering our sins includes them. there is something that might have been from their jahilayah that the sahabbah radi allah anhum would take and benefit from but its not like telkling hood stories with name drops. If you read teh story from pre islamic makkah regarding teh man and his daughter ( whom he buried alive) then you benefit from that teh darkness of shirk and jahl that teh Arabs came from into teh light of Islam.

As for this article then its a joke. it offers a sensational look at teh revert community, focus on the multiple marriages not on the struggles to free themselves of Shirk and Bida&#039;h or the plkaythings of that such as drugs or their struggles to forge ahead with masjids and schools with their own har earned cash.

Polygany for the press offers the chance to accuse even those who choose Life in the after Life of being nothing more than chasing women/men types. The Kuffar even accuse teh beloved prophet sallahu alayhis wassallam of being a sensualist. Thats why they bring up the issue of polygany with revets as if to show that all the people who chose Life after death and not punishment didn&#039;t do so out of knowing that what they were raised upon ( christainity in most cases) is wrong. They try to use it to say that really they just players in a new grament.

Lies. Polygany is a part of Islam and those reverts who have wholly submitted to Allah and become Muslims may or may not practise it as a solution for themselves.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the juiciest details of ones jahilyah is to be kept secret. That was teh practise of teh sahbbah and as far as I know covvering our sins includes them. there is something that might have been from their jahilayah that the sahabbah radi allah anhum would take and benefit from but its not like telkling hood stories with name drops. If you read teh story from pre islamic makkah regarding teh man and his daughter ( whom he buried alive) then you benefit from that teh darkness of shirk and jahl that teh Arabs came from into teh light of Islam.</p>
<p>As for this article then its a joke. it offers a sensational look at teh revert community, focus on the multiple marriages not on the struggles to free themselves of Shirk and Bida&#8217;h or the plkaythings of that such as drugs or their struggles to forge ahead with masjids and schools with their own har earned cash.</p>
<p>Polygany for the press offers the chance to accuse even those who choose Life in the after Life of being nothing more than chasing women/men types. The Kuffar even accuse teh beloved prophet sallahu alayhis wassallam of being a sensualist. Thats why they bring up the issue of polygany with revets as if to show that all the people who chose Life after death and not punishment didn&#8217;t do so out of knowing that what they were raised upon ( christainity in most cases) is wrong. They try to use it to say that really they just players in a new grament.</p>
<p>Lies. Polygany is a part of Islam and those reverts who have wholly submitted to Allah and become Muslims may or may not practise it as a solution for themselves.<br />
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		<title>By: Umm Samir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umm Samir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Salaamu Alaikum:

&quot;Many black men are accoustomed to &#039;having&#039; many women&quot; ...

Who are these women that the black men are &#039;having&#039;?  I think the same goes for some black women.  It is not uncommon (in Philadelphia, near where I live) to see converted AA sisters who have a history of having been divorced and remarried multiple times.  Some as many times as the brothers.  Sometimes it is not the brother&#039;s fault.  

Just hate to see the AA brothers get ALL the bad press.

Sister Brooke:  I know of two Arab women who converted Caucasian brothers to marry them.  It does not go well for either of them.  It&#039;s like &quot;What else do you want?  Oh, you want me to pray, etc.?&quot;  Don&#039;t even want to know how they met these men.  My husband and I went to an Eid dinner at one of their homes.  My husband had to lead the salaat while the husband sat in the kitchen talking.  Very sad.  The sister also feels very sad, believe me.  What will she tell her daughter, who she is raising as Muslim, Alhamdulillah, when she gets older and asks why daddy doesn&#039;t pray?  I say dua that Allah (swt) will bring these brothers to the Straight Path.  After all, He did bring them to Islam, albeit through a strange door.  Allah (swt) is so powerful and can increase the imaan of whomever He pleases.  

It is true that some love the juicy details of a convert&#039;s pre-Islamic life.  And even their Muslim life if they are new to Islam and naive enough to tell.  To make a long story short, I started attending a masjid in a new town after my husband and I were separated, many years ago.  At the time, I really didn&#039;t know any better, being a new Muslim and all.  So I &quot;shared&quot; with my sisters ... ALL my marital woes.  I was in so much pain.  I was looking for the comfort and support I was used to in my former life.  Girls ... they were on the edge of their seats!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Salaamu Alaikum:</p>
<p>&#8220;Many black men are accoustomed to &#8216;having&#8217; many women&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>Who are these women that the black men are &#8216;having&#8217;?  I think the same goes for some black women.  It is not uncommon (in Philadelphia, near where I live) to see converted AA sisters who have a history of having been divorced and remarried multiple times.  Some as many times as the brothers.  Sometimes it is not the brother&#8217;s fault.  </p>
<p>Just hate to see the AA brothers get ALL the bad press.</p>
<p>Sister Brooke:  I know of two Arab women who converted Caucasian brothers to marry them.  It does not go well for either of them.  It&#8217;s like &#8220;What else do you want?  Oh, you want me to pray, etc.?&#8221;  Don&#8217;t even want to know how they met these men.  My husband and I went to an Eid dinner at one of their homes.  My husband had to lead the salaat while the husband sat in the kitchen talking.  Very sad.  The sister also feels very sad, believe me.  What will she tell her daughter, who she is raising as Muslim, Alhamdulillah, when she gets older and asks why daddy doesn&#8217;t pray?  I say dua that Allah (swt) will bring these brothers to the Straight Path.  After all, He did bring them to Islam, albeit through a strange door.  Allah (swt) is so powerful and can increase the imaan of whomever He pleases.  </p>
<p>It is true that some love the juicy details of a convert&#8217;s pre-Islamic life.  And even their Muslim life if they are new to Islam and naive enough to tell.  To make a long story short, I started attending a masjid in a new town after my husband and I were separated, many years ago.  At the time, I really didn&#8217;t know any better, being a new Muslim and all.  So I &#8220;shared&#8221; with my sisters &#8230; ALL my marital woes.  I was in so much pain.  I was looking for the comfort and support I was used to in my former life.  Girls &#8230; they were on the edge of their seats!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Musleemah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musleemah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mohamed El Sheikh, executive director of the Islamic Jurisprudential Council of North America, said that many American converts to Islam, of all races and ethnicities, are already accustomed to having multiple sexual partners.&quot;


Oh okay. Well, you know, I dont know about the convert sisters, because many Ive met were indeed pretty chaste before Islam. But for the revert men, especially the minorities who are more apt to polygyny than white Muslim, I think the brother hit the mark on the head. Many black men are accoustomed to &quot;having&quot; many women. Indeed I said &quot;having&quot; not supporting. And I definitely think this is the main reason why they enter Islam and automatically feel entitled to polygyny, regardless of their status. 

Umm Adam, c&#039;mon now girl. You know an old school playa who enters Islam from the correctional institute usuallay will have no problems finding 2, 3 or even four wives in a five year span. My cousin has a saying, game doesn&#039;t change, it gets repackaged. May Allah help our families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mohamed El Sheikh, executive director of the Islamic Jurisprudential Council of North America, said that many American converts to Islam, of all races and ethnicities, are already accustomed to having multiple sexual partners.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh okay. Well, you know, I dont know about the convert sisters, because many Ive met were indeed pretty chaste before Islam. But for the revert men, especially the minorities who are more apt to polygyny than white Muslim, I think the brother hit the mark on the head. Many black men are accoustomed to &#8220;having&#8221; many women. Indeed I said &#8220;having&#8221; not supporting. And I definitely think this is the main reason why they enter Islam and automatically feel entitled to polygyny, regardless of their status. </p>
<p>Umm Adam, c&#8217;mon now girl. You know an old school playa who enters Islam from the correctional institute usuallay will have no problems finding 2, 3 or even four wives in a five year span. My cousin has a saying, game doesn&#8217;t change, it gets repackaged. May Allah help our families.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke AKA Ummbadier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke AKA Ummbadier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good rule ,masha Allah, as a lot of Muslims have difficulties covering their sins and that&#039;s nasty to want to hear it!
I have wondered what would be the etiquette about that, I mean I know the sins of jilhaliya are forgiven-but it seems we shouldn&#039;t glorify them and at best continue to cover them-though this is sometimes nearly impossible, like children out of wedlock and visible tattoos!...also, we know some of the jilhaliya of the sahaba.
I&#039;ve seen sisters be weird on both sides-the ones who converted and married their Muslim boyfriends, subhanallah many seem to practice better than their hubbies!...as well as sisters disgusted by brothers dating non-Muslim women when there are so many Muslim women to marry-um, but why would a practicing sis want that???
Anyhoo...my key point here is...Allah (swt) guides whom he wills...and how he wills.
Oh, and about men that &quot;convert&quot; to marry sisters-I have yet to seen that scenario end well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good rule ,masha Allah, as a lot of Muslims have difficulties covering their sins and that&#8217;s nasty to want to hear it!<br />
I have wondered what would be the etiquette about that, I mean I know the sins of jilhaliya are forgiven-but it seems we shouldn&#8217;t glorify them and at best continue to cover them-though this is sometimes nearly impossible, like children out of wedlock and visible tattoos!&#8230;also, we know some of the jilhaliya of the sahaba.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen sisters be weird on both sides-the ones who converted and married their Muslim boyfriends, subhanallah many seem to practice better than their hubbies!&#8230;as well as sisters disgusted by brothers dating non-Muslim women when there are so many Muslim women to marry-um, but why would a practicing sis want that???<br />
Anyhoo&#8230;my key point here is&#8230;Allah (swt) guides whom he wills&#8230;and how he wills.<br />
Oh, and about men that &#8220;convert&#8221; to marry sisters-I have yet to seen that scenario end well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ummadam</title>
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		<dc:creator>ummadam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was refering to the the western whore/player mentality. They really do beliee the hype. ask any convert and they will tell you how interested some Arab women can be for details of your juicy (in their dreams) jahiliyah. I can partially understand, as I have a rule now to never ask  female converts how they met their Arab husbands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was refering to the the western whore/player mentality. They really do beliee the hype. ask any convert and they will tell you how interested some Arab women can be for details of your juicy (in their dreams) jahiliyah. I can partially understand, as I have a rule now to never ask  female converts how they met their Arab husbands.</p>
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		<title>By: Ummu Rahmah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ummu Rahmah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have misunderstood which quote Umm Adam was referring to, but nevertheless, I do take his statement as an insult.  Although I am sure that he did not intend it that way, since he&#039;s an old and dear friend of my father&#039;s (an Africanamerican), and has known my siblings and me since we were little &#039;uns.  But my point is that some easterners often view themselves as superior to converts, and often use zina (as if all converts even committed zina in their pasts) to prove it.  Just look at some of the comments on Musleemah&#039;s post about the brother (Allaah yarhamuh) with the two wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have misunderstood which quote Umm Adam was referring to, but nevertheless, I do take his statement as an insult.  Although I am sure that he did not intend it that way, since he&#8217;s an old and dear friend of my father&#8217;s (an Africanamerican), and has known my siblings and me since we were little &#8216;uns.  But my point is that some easterners often view themselves as superior to converts, and often use zina (as if all converts even committed zina in their pasts) to prove it.  Just look at some of the comments on Musleemah&#8217;s post about the brother (Allaah yarhamuh) with the two wives.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke AKA Ummbadier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke AKA Ummbadier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought she was offended by El Sheik  calling us sluts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought she was offended by El Sheik  calling us sluts?</p>
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		<title>By: Musleemah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musleemah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“With the high number of African American men in prison, on drugs, out of work, or unavailable in some other way … the options are limited,” Majeed said.


Ummu Rahma, I believe this is the statement that she was questioning if it was offensive or not. 

I think it is. For some reason some black think less of minority women, especially black women. In essence he&#039;s stating that black women ought to be happy with half of husband because we can&#039;t do any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“With the high number of African American men in prison, on drugs, out of work, or unavailable in some other way … the options are limited,” Majeed said.</p>
<p>Ummu Rahma, I believe this is the statement that she was questioning if it was offensive or not. </p>
<p>I think it is. For some reason some black think less of minority women, especially black women. In essence he&#8217;s stating that black women ought to be happy with half of husband because we can&#8217;t do any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ummu Rahmah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ummu Rahmah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add...the one that&#039;s from Sudan?</description>
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		<title>By: Ummu Rahmah</title>
		<link>http://ummadam.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/interesting-news-article-on-polygyny/#comment-2906</link>
		<dc:creator>Ummu Rahmah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that comment of his was an insult.  It&#039;s always interesting to me to see how SOME eastern &quot;pure&quot; muslims can talk about how much fornication converts from the west commit, yet most of them come from places where shirk is rampant!  As if zina is any worse than shirk.  Fornication is forgiven, shirk is not.  

That is, assuming this is the same Mohammed Shaikh in the DC area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that comment of his was an insult.  It&#8217;s always interesting to me to see how SOME eastern &#8220;pure&#8221; muslims can talk about how much fornication converts from the west commit, yet most of them come from places where shirk is rampant!  As if zina is any worse than shirk.  Fornication is forgiven, shirk is not.  </p>
<p>That is, assuming this is the same Mohammed Shaikh in the DC area.</p>
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